Gracious, wise, funny, and utterly JULIA. I’m so excited to bring you this chat with our country’s first female leader, former Prime Minister, Julia Gillard. As well as leadership advice, surviving male-dominated workplaces, and being a high school rebel… I asked her about how she feels about Tony Abbott now, if she wished she’d called out the sexist media commentary earlier (she does), and of course… the story behind that 'off the cuff' speech that sent shockwaves around the world.

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