– We have to think about why we get triggered in conversation0:45 – Introduction to Trust Tree Talks.1:50 – Gerry Ebalaroza-Tunnell introduction3:37 – Roles and responsibilities of the Wayfinder leader4:14 – Identifying and cultivating the potential of the people in your “boat”6:45 – What it means to be a transformational leader7:22 – A’ohe hana nui ke alu ‘ia8:10 – Growing up a “positive deviant”8:54 – How Gerry joined the military to change the way her boys think about women11:37 – When “on her back or in the kitchen” doesn’t fly14:37 – Early life in Hawaii17:42 – Positive deviance and finishing high school21:34 – Arriving in Los Angeles after leaving Hawaii for the first time23:16 – How do I make this happen?24:26 – Embracing living up to the consequences of our mistakes25:28 – First brush with racism29:35 – Where is ohana on the mainland?30:07 – Hardening against a racist culture30:53 – You can feel aloha in your body32:00 – Wanting acceptance and not finding belonging33:52 – Explaining the aloha spirit and the energy35:05 – Mana of the indigenous people36:01 – The evolution of aloha38:25 – Advice for engaging in sensitive conversations39:15 – Examining when we are triggered40:32 – Call out culture and trauma41:26 – Building intentional relationships44:33 – Gracious anger and how to leverage it for change45:29 – Riding on whiteness47:00 – The ability to walk in multiple worlds50:18 – Positive deviance returns51:06 – Being careful with the language of decolonization53:00 – Leading toward healing56:10 – Realizing the impact of speaking your truth57:17 – Educating and loving the whole child1:01:45 – Recognizing the lack of equity in the homes of students1:02:35 – Leading with your heart1:04:44 – How to find Gerry1:06:56 – Closing; how you can support Trust Tree TalksMentioned in the episode:Trust Tree GroupCo3 ConsultingWayfinding Leadership: Groundbreaking Wisdom for Developing LeadersCourageous Conversations About RacePlowline PodcastProduced by Chris Martin Studios