<p>The new normal is here to stay but not everyone got the memo. What happens when precautions become subjective? UK &amp; Divya discuss what they're doing to take back control of their safety in the re-opened public spaces of their respective cities and reveal the serendipity of wearing a face mask while musing on the future of gathering from a design perspective.</p>

Holy matrimony is hard. Throw in a dose of long-distance with a time-zone difference and hear about routines getting pushed, call times going for a toss, and losing precious hours of sleep. Divya and Utkarsh have been seasoned in the art of geographical distance and have undertaken this mammoth exercise for a fourth time as they transition to a new country this year. Join them on the @trunkcallpodcast to hear how they cope with the knowns and unknowns of long-distance while discussing common interests, getting into spousal disagreements and life-topic segues.