The Cleveland Browns stomped the Dallas Cowboys in Week 4 of NFL action, beating America’s so-called team, 49-38. Caleb and JD talk about what this game means for both teams and discuss some of the other stories from Week 4 of NFL action. The guys are joined by author Ryan Swanson to talk about his book, “The Strenuous Life: Theodore Roosevelt and the Making of the American Athlete," and Caleb explains why he's excited about the direction the Browns are headed.

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