American History X director Tony Kaye has a conversation with host Cameron McHarg about being in and out of Hollywood/Madison Avenue jail, Marlon Brando, Paul McCartney, Muhammad Ali, acting, directing, art, his love of America, and even about Donald Trump and the crazy state of American politics. We recorded in the seedy back alley of a bar on Hollywood Blvd, and will probably have a Part 2 episode together again in the near future.