Kevin Ludbrook & Jason Webster can sniff out the BS. Two fellas who did time at Quorum and bonded over fast cars are working wonders at Spira Data, one of the fastest-growing Operational Resource Planning and Field Ticketing platforms in the game. Come for the stories, stay for the "Say-Do Ratio"...and whatever you do, remove the term "If your controller gets hit by a bus..." from your lexicon. Good podcast with some good fellas.