Today I'm joined by Toby Murrill since Jerid is out again.  The good news... there's ZERO golf talk this episode.  You're welcome.  Your hosts:Denis Tyrell of Tyrell Knifeworks:IG: @tyrellknifeworksYouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/c/TyrellKnifeworksWebsite: https://www.tyrellknifeworks.comFacebook:  https://www.facebook.com/people/Tyrell-Knifeworks/61558767232017/Toby Murrill of Murrill Forge and previously of the Fire & Steel Podcast:IG:  @murrillforgeWebsite:  https://www.murrillforge.co.uk/Maker's Spotlight: * https://www.instagram.com/middletonmadeknives/ * https://www.instagram.com/pardoeandco/ * https://www.instagram.com/donny_dulevich/ Our sponsors:Two Basterds Tx Smithy & Supplies: @twobasterdshammersMaritime Knife Supply:  http://maritimeknifesupply.comPelican Paste:  https://pelicanpaste.com  (Use TTT10 for 10% off!)Baker Forge and Tool:  https://www.bakerforge.com  (Use TTT10 for 10% off!)Grip Tech Composites:  https://rocksolidscales.com/ (Use TTT10 for 10% off!)Evenheat Kilns: Https://Evenheatkilns.com/Ameribrade:  https://www.ameribrade.com/The Drop Point:  https://thedroppoint.com/Podcasts we think you'll like: * Hustle and Grind * Work For It * Fire and Steel * KnifeTalk * FullBlast * ForgeSideChat * Artisans of Steel * Knife Perspective