On this episode of Transformation Realness, I’m talking to Star Carter, an attorney, startup founder, and a leadership advisor and consultant at Egon Zehnder. I’m also talking with Zach Nunn, who has deep HR and people experience and is CEO and host of Living Corporate. We get into the state of DEIB in the workplace, the backsliding of gains from the pandemic and whether we can actually have sustained DEIB improvement under American capitalism. And if not, what can people do on their own?Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices