Moderator: Why do people go to church?

Jordan Peterson: Why should they…

M: Right

J:Because that’s a discussion…so lots of modern people say ‘well I don’t go to church because I don’t believe that. It’s like…who cares what you believe, like who the hell are you anyways? Do you even care what you believe? How’s that working for you, this belief set that you theoretically have? How sophisticated is that?  Are you Plato or what? ‘Well here’s the church and here’s me and I’m right’ and it’s like well no you’re not, first, and second you don’t even want to be because that’s a great place to be, like a pinnacle of brilliant wisdom…

M: (laughs)

J:…completely solipsistic, and even if you are right that the bloody institution is chaotic and decadent in some fundamental sense, well it’s like ‘good, there’s something for you to do, well if the church is broken and you’re the genius to see it, why don’t you go fix it?’ Well then you might say ‘Well then we’ll just abandon it’ and it’s like ‘OK, well fine, you’re gonna get rid of that, eh, you’re gonna get rid of marriage, you’re gonna get rid of funerals, you’re gonna get rid of Christmas, you’re gonna get rid of sense of sacred time…How far are you willing to go with this? And believe me, that question is right in front of you…

-Jordan Peterson

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in a whispered tone P: Transcripts

D: (laughter) OK

F:Wow

D:Mr. Jordan Peterson

F:He..

D:Mr. Jordan Peterson

F:That’s one of the most Deerect, deerect? …direct um, and blunt

individuals I have ever heard.

D:It’s one thing, I so I’ve never met the guy, I’ve, that’s, that’s a bucket list thing, to meet Jordan Peterson…

F:To meet Jordan Peterson?

D:Yeah, and actually have him on a podcast

F:Can I be on a fly , be a fly on your shoulder

D:If, If I could have him on a podcast that would actually be more amazing too, but yeah, ok (laughter)

F: (laughter)

D:Uh, that’s a lot

F:So we’re really gonna talk about this…

D:I mean, yeah

F:Church, religion

D:Why…

F:Hello listeners…

D:Why go to church was the question…

F:Right.  And actually it wasn’t why do you go to church, He then changes it…the real question is why should you

D:Yeah, Yeah, so, that was Jordan Peterson, he says why should you…um…here’s the thing: Everybody needs a belief system.