Luv is Rage 2 is finally dropping but who cares? NFL football is here... Kenneth and Pete talk about unofficial AFC West stories, the Chargers preseason games and much more.

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NFL takes and topical tangents for football nerds, casual sports fans & the culture since 2016. Touchdowns and Tangents balances real life experience with the most cultural and concise commentary from the week's football news. Since 2016, the weekly podcast features live football news breakdowns along with live guest interviews. Pete D. Camarillo and Kenneth Frank host the syndicated podcast from Los Angeles. Featured guests include athletes, journalists, entrepreneurs and other people at the intersection of sports and culture. Our archives don't lie. Find out more at Touchdownsandtangents.com.