I was surprised to see that the last time we'd spoken to Vanessa Alzate was back in 2019. Back then, I knew Vanessa more as a freelancer and Youtuber, doing things differently than what's typical in L&D. And now in 2023, Vanessa has a booming L&D Agency with a fantastic team, AND also recently acquired Kirkpatrick Partners, whose Founder, Don Kirkpatrick, was the creator of The Kirkpatrick Model, the most recognized and widely used training evaluation model in the world.

Join us to catch up with Vanessa - a lot has gone on in the last four years, and it was so great to see Vanessa as ambitious as ever.