Eric and Wendy are joined by Michelle Martinez, Wendy’s grad school classmate and BFF, to discuss her favorite parts of “Nestor.” 

Michelle is a current poetry indexer and permissions coordinator for a large poetry organization, recovering academic, and chicana feminist crockpot fiend with a Ph.D. in English lit. A guest was necessary, since, until the recording, Eric and Wendy thought “Nestor” was … fine, but maybe feel differently by the end?

Highlights of the conversation include Michelle’s four-month-old’s timely appearance as we discuss “amor matris,” discussion of Deasy’s QAnon resonance, debate over what it means that God is a shout in the street, and, finally, the pod’s casting of the perfect Ulysses movie Deasy.

Recommended Resources:

• Frank Budgen, James Joyce and the Making of Ulysses (Even if everyone makes fun of his reading of Deasy.)
• Technically Pop, Eric’s other pop culture discussion podcast with Georgia Tech colleagues

Recommended Beverages:

• Wendy: Sprezzatura (pilsner—not pizza), by Arches Brewing, Hapeville, GA
• Eric and Michelle: Yorkshire Tea (provided by Wendy), Taylors of Harrogate, Harrogate, Yorkshire, UK
• Eric: SeaQuench Ale (session sour), by Dogfish Head Craft Brewery, Milton, DE

Theme song: “Come on Over” by Scalcairn, via Blue Dot Sessions

Special thanks to Carin Goldberg, whose cover design for the Gabler edition inspired our logo.