My good friend Rick Burke who is the Lead Pastor at Cedar Point Church in Claremore, Oklahoma joins me for a conversation about God, The Bible, Suffering, Salvation, Aliens, and more. This isn't a debate because we are friends, but we do land on different sides of the topics; I am a Spiritual Agnostic while Rick is a Fundamental Evangelical Pastor. Rick is a dear friend of mine who I respect deeply, obviously I think he is misguided (wrong) in his beliefs, just as he thinks I am deceived by the devil, ha ha! It's a fun, honest, open-hearted, authentic conversation you will definitely enjoy.