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S5:E4 “A Leader of Leaders”  Timeout with Fern Johnson

Everyone has a story worth telling—and one we can all learn from.
Behind every title is a human story.Timeout with Leaders goes beyond job titles and LinkedIn bios to explore the crooked mile of leadership: the messy, meaningful journey of becoming. From CEOs and Presidents to Executive Directors and visionaries, each guest shares their real story: the setbacks, turning points, and inner battles that shaped how they lead with greater clarity, courage, and compassion.
This isn’t just a leadership podcast. It’s a space for honest inner reflection and growth, the kind that fuels the most impactful leadership.
Through fun, raw, and enlightening conversations, we invite you to rethink what leadership really means, starting with yourself.
Whether you're leading teams or simply leading your own life, take a timeout.