Get out of your mind during this episode.  This is Part 1 of a long conversation. Nat and Madi talk about psychedelics and are joined by return-guest Javi. He shares his experience doing psychedelics since neither Nat nor Madi has gone on their own trips. Part 2 on Timothy Leary, his experiments using psychedelics, and a conspiracy theory (but not really) involving the use of psychedelics will be out next week! 

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