This Working Life
This Working Life
ABC Australia
Top books for work and life
24 minutes Posted Oct 17, 2025 at 12:00 am.
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Lisa is joined by Panio Gianopolous, co-founder and editorial director of the Next Big Idea Club, as they each nominate three non-fiction books related to work that have changed the way they work and live. 
Tune in to Radio National’s Top 100 Books countdown, Saturday 18th and Sunday 19th October from 1pm. Or catch up anytime on the ABC Listen app. 
Panio’s picks: 
The Work of Art: How Something Comes from Nothing by Adam Moss  
Slow Productivity: The Lost Art of Accomplishment Without Burnout by Cal Newport 
Grit: Passion, Perseverance, and the Science of Success by Angela Duckworth 
Lisa’s picks: 
The Design of Everyday Things, Don Norman 
Improv Wisdom, Patricia Ryan Madson 
The Art of Possibility, Rosamund Stone Zander and Benjamin Zander 
Extra pick:  
Atomic Habits, James Clear