Amos and Charlene are joined by Dr. Mark Labberton.

This is Crucial with Dr. Christine Hong

This is Crucial is a live conversation and podcast focused on healing justice and racial equity. It’s about the conversations we are afraid to have, the issues we are scared to address, and the stories we have too long overlooked. Hosted by Amos J. Disasa and Charlene Han Powell, This is Crucial invites guests and listeners to come with their questions and observations, hopes and heartache.  We all hail from different places but are sojourners headed in the same direction—in search of the truth that’s embodied by beloved community. Come as you are but be prepared to be transformed. Learn more at thisiscrucial.com