She's building an alternate dimension for cheese. CEO of Lumi Foods (Blue Heron Creamery) Karen McAthy goes visionary on the knuckleheads. She goes deep on how to make 100% dairy-free, plant based vegan cheeses that doesn't sacrifice taste or tradition.

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