In this episode, Wilder and Annabel talk with Ayodele Casel, professional tap dancer and performer, about her tap career and how it’s shaped her as a person. Starting tap in college at 19 - considered late by some - she worked with a singular purpose and became one of the most celebrated tap dancers - and most innovative performers alive. There’s more to it then just tap though, check out the episode to hear it all and much more.

Catch Ayodele in Ayodele Casel: Chasing Magic streaming April 8th-21st! Click here for more information.