In this episode, I speak with Kevin Sweeney. Kevin was the co-founder and lead pastor of Imagine Church.  He is the host of podcast “The Church Needs Therapy” and is the author of two books The Making of a Mystic: My Journey with Mushrooms, My Life as a Pastor, and Why It’s Okay For Everyone to Relax and The Joy of Letting Go: One Thing Has The Power to Change Everything

• Psychedelic mushrooms & mysticism 
• Changing beliefs versus a shift in consciousness 
• A spirituality of subtraction 
• Letting go as an ongoing posture toward self and the world 
• Being held by Love 
• Much more!