"The value of experimentation is that it fuels innovations." says Jonny Longden, the head of of CRO at @Journey Further, who has joined us at #theBigLift podcast today.Jonny shares his vision about what conversion rate optimisation can bring to businesses, and it's not just about the focus on ROI and successful tests. Jonny is confident that using the real customer data you get during experimentation will allow you to transform your business and ultimately make it more profitable in the long run.