As the United States adopts an increasingly confrontational international posture, the ties between Russia and China are deepening. Should the West be concerned? Jen talks to Carnegie Moscow expert <a href="https://carnegie.ru/experts/1017">Alexander Gabuev</a> about what’s bringing them together, and the consequences for the United States.
Go Deeper: 
Read Sasha's piece on <a href="https://carnegie.ru/2018/09/24/why-russia-and-china-are-strengthening-security-ties-pub-77333">how U.S. policies are pushing Russia and China closer together</a>.

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