In today's episode we talk to Lisa Eaton, clinical social worker for over 30 years.  Lisa talks about the gift of therapy in the healing journey and the road blocks to healing.  We discuss the lighter side of shadow work and the absolute normalcy of woundedness.  We also talk about the differences between traditional talk therapy, healing work and the sacrament of  confession.   If you struggle with depression anxiety or addiction and are at all skeptical of therapy, like Doug and Sheila, this is the episode for you!