<p>Joe Payne from CAL-PAC Citizens for American Liberation joins Suzanne and Jeff to discuss California's secession movement.</p>

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Liberty Minutes with Gregory Carpenter Episode 30

In addition to discussing news and events in my home state of Utah, I take hot button issues and examine them from the perspective of what was promised when the Constitution was proposed and later ratified. My focus is on topics that rile emotions and torment our souls. I hope to encourage everyone to find peace outside of politics and practice the art of personal secession.  Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/the-wasatch-report/support