The Virtual Couch
The Virtual Couch
Tony Overbay LMFT
You're Not Bad. You're Carrying the Problem: Shame, Triggers, and Healing
54 minutes Posted Mar 7, 2026 at 10:00 am.
Welcome and Course Plug
Listener Email and The Bet
Nick Pollard Trigger Reframe
Agreeing With Nuance
Trigger Word Cultural Weight
First and Second Darts
Four Stages of Change
Agency vs Nervous System
Pathologically Kind and Shame
Language Shapes Experience
Sin Versus Healing
Rohr Reframes Brokenness
Shame Keeps Us Stuck
How Shame Gets Installed
ACT And Defusion
Radical Acceptance Lens
Original Sin Culture Myth
Kingdom Of God Within
What We Learned Today
Closing Reflections
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"I was triggered" vs. "I chose"—what if both are true, and neither gets to the real problem?
When a listener sent Tony a viral video challenging people to replace "I was triggered" with "I chose," it sparked a deeper conversation about accountability, nervous system science, and the shame-based frameworks many of us inherited long before we ever heard the word "trigger." This episode holds two truths at once: yes, adults are responsible for their behavior—and the initial nervous system activation that precedes a choice is real, automatic, and not a moral failure.
Episode highlights:
Why the word "trigger" can feel like a life sentence to trauma survivors—and an identity assignment to the people who hurt them
Rick Hanson's "first and second dart" framework and the four stages of change from unconscious incompetence to unconscious competence
The critical distinction between activation and action—and why that space is where all growth lives
How Richard Rohr's reframe of sin as brokenness needing healing (not judgment) connects directly to why shame never produces lasting change
How shame gets installed in childhood before a four-year-old's brain can separate "I did something bad" from "I am bad"—and how ACT defusion offers a way out
Tony Overbay is a licensed marriage and family therapist, betrayal trauma certified, and host of The Virtual Couch, Waking Up to Narcissism, and Love, ADHD podcasts.
If the idea of change through agency—not shame—resonates with you, explore Tony's Magnetic Marriage course at tonyoverbay.com/magnetic
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