Veteran journalist Stephen Walker joins the UTV Podcast to reflect on the monumental legacies of Nobel Laureates John Hume and David Trimble.

With over 30 years of experience covering Northern Ireland's politics, Stephen breaks down the differing roles of 'The Persuader' and 'The Peacemaker'.

Hosted by Paul Clark, Stephen and he discuss the immense pressure both men faced, the heavy political prices they paid within their own parties, and why history will ultimately judge their careers as an overwhelming success that left Northern Ireland a better place.

You can also watch this episode on ITVX.