Ben Thompson returns to the show and there’s no sports talk because there’s no sports. Instead: temperature scales, Joe Rogan and Spotify, and Dithering.

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Links:

• Dithering.
• Ben at Stratechery: “Dithering and Open Versus Free.”
• Me at DF: “Dithering” and “More on Dithering”.
• Me at Macworld back in 2010: “It’s the heaviness of the Mac that allows iOS to remain light.”

This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.