This episode of The Swing sees Danae and Jeff talking about the ongoing coronavirus complications in Victoria, leading to border closures in South Australia and a potential border closure in WA to follow.

Danae also interviews historian [Babette Smith](http://babettesmith.com/), talking to her about the female population of the first wave of Australian convicts and their tales of rebellion.

This episode of The Swing aired on Tuesday 25th May 2021.

The Swing – Episode 35

Join us as we delve into the wonderful world of politics.

From local, national and international issues, Danae Gibson and Chris Wheeldon take a look at the what is happening in the halls of power.

The Swing includes interviews with experts from across the spectrum of politics, media and broadcasting.