Over 20-plus years, Dani Shapiro made a name for herself as a best-selling author of deeply revealing and unforgettable memoirs -- including "Slow Motion," "Hourglass," "Devotion," and "Inheritance."

But in 2020, in the midst of the pandemic, Shapiro discovered a forgotten manuscript for an unfinished novel in her office closet -- and her return to fiction, which had been her career focus early on, became essential. The result was "Signal Fires," a wonderfully intimate novel that spans more than two decades and takes us inside the hearts -- and into the well-kept secrets -- of three intertwined families.

In this excerpt from our forthcoming full interview with Shapiro -- her second visit to The Story Talks Back -- she talks about the very different demands and opportunities in writing fiction versus memoir, and reveals how the two inform each other in her work.

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