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Stuart Preston
Episode 40: Complex PTSD (C-PTSD) Treatment with Psilocybin and LSD with Guy
57 minutes Posted Feb 26, 2021 at 6:34 pm.
in his position died)Feb 25th; fierce battle; watching; friends got ambushed; watched friend die; Somatic injury Peter’s book “…Tiger”Stuck in stunned state for 2-3 hoursWanted to break down but friend stopped him from losing itHis mates needed him on the battlefieldBecame dissociativeNine years lived with those terrors; ruminating; those memories were defining himWanted to become an officer; did interview with the commanding officer; realized he needed to get out, not become an officerGot bad advice from a military therapist; told to just keep going and just figure it outTook an overdose of opioid; attempted suicide, moving away from life rather than towards deathLeft 3 months before end of duty; partied; skied; played the system; gone for 4 years with drink and drugs; drastic ups and downsJust couldn’t sit with painIt took a break-up to wake him up; saw TED talks other info on psilocybin and depressionStarted universityForaged for mushrooms in Scotland; StametsCouldn’t find any in the forests; dejected; at work, the sun came out and shined on the mushrooms right where he workedFor the next two months, walked in nature with mushrooms and a notebookBegan to see his thoughts fueled the emotional turmoil; engaged with that side of himselfSame old arguments with family brought him back downKnew he had to do the work; a friend had a method with LSDBiggest breakthrough in Barcelona; took 10 hours“I love you!” Unconditional, couldn’t accept it; thought it meant he was gay; fundamentally gay; figured out he can’t be loved by men, like his buddies in Afghanistan; Sat next to a fire in a chapel, and it all broke free: “I never loved myself.” Always there for everyone else but never himselfThis happened 10 hours in, way past the peakWe all have the power of God to love ourselves; the father, son, holy ghost in a non-religious way; breaking dawn within your heartSaw that suffering is a choice; purged, there went his traumaLife hasn’t been the same sinceHow did you use Psilocybin and LSD to help yourself?Experiences?Lessons?Had support around him; counselors; therapists; trauma therapists; friends; social support; Outcomes: how are things today?Other questions:Set/setting/dose/substance: social, have people around; How to have an insightful experienceStigma?Comes from a place of not knowingDad was a cop; Mom a teacher; very anti-drug;They want you to be in the image they created of youUniversity not ready (yet) to start a psychedelic societyBreaking Through PTSD with PsychedelicsDid a 1-Minute interview to get a part as an extra; the filmmaker saw it; invited him to interviewBBC News (Breakfast News) picked it upDrug ScienceKeith Abraham, CEO of Heroic Hearts UKPutting pressure on gov’t to make changesWhat else?
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In this episode, I had the honor of speaking with Guy Murray. Guy suffered from C-PTSD, complex PTSD, from trauma experienced in childhood and in war in Afghanistan. That led him to psilocybin and LSD for help. His story is an important one and is being told in the documentary, Breaking Through PTSD with Psychedelics… So…let’s hear from Guy.
Breaking Through PTSD with Psychedelics: https://youtu.be/1xvdV01MsWI  (Trailer)
Dr. Ben Sessa 
We discussed:
Breaking Through PTSD with Psychedelics – your story of using Psilocybin and Lsd to heal from C-PTSD, that had developed from childhood and later AfghanistanChildhood development of PTSD?Afghanistan?Joined the Army; sense of serviceIt was shockingEnded up in the bloodiest toll in Afghanistan (1:4 in his position died)Feb 25th; fierce battle; watching; friends got ambushed; watched friend die; Somatic injury Peter’s book “…Tiger”Stuck in stunned state for 2-3 hoursWanted to break down but friend stopped him from losing itHis mates needed him on the battlefieldBecame dissociativeNine years lived with those terrors; ruminating; those memories were defining himWanted to become an officer; did interview with the commanding officer; realized he needed to get out, not become an officerGot bad advice from a military therapist; told to just keep going and just figure it outTook an overdose of opioid; attempted suicide, moving away from life rather than towards deathLeft 3 months before end of duty; partied; skied; played the system; gone for 4 years with drink and drugs; drastic ups and downsJust couldn’t sit with painIt took a break-up to wake him up; saw TED talks other info on psilocybin and depressionStarted universityForaged for mushrooms in Scotland; StametsCouldn’t find any in the forests; dejected; at work, the sun came out and shined on the mushrooms right where he workedFor the next two months, walked in nature with mushrooms and a notebookBegan to see his thoughts fueled the emotional turmoil; engaged with that side of himselfSame old arguments with family brought him back downKnew he had to do the work; a friend had a method with LSDBiggest breakthrough in Barcelona; took 10 hours“I love you!” Unconditional, couldn’t accept it; thought it meant he was gay; fundamentally gay; figured out he can’t be loved by men, like his buddies in Afghanistan; Sat next to a fire in a chapel, and it all broke free: “I never loved myself.” Always there for everyone else but never himselfThis happened 10 hours in, way past the peakWe all have the power of God to love ourselves; the father, son, holy ghost in a non-religious way; breaking dawn within your heartSaw that suffering is a choice; purged, there went his traumaLife hasn’t been the same sinceHow did you use Psilocybin and LSD to help yourself?Experiences?Lessons?Had support around him; counselors; therapists; trauma therapists; friends; social support; Outcomes: how are things today?Other questions:Set/setting/dose/substance: social, have people around; How to have an insightful experienceStigma?Comes from a place of not knowingDad was a cop; Mom a teacher; very anti-drug;They want you to be in the image they created of youUniversity not ready (yet) to start a psychedelic societyBreaking Through PTSD with PsychedelicsDid a 1-Minute interview to get a part as an extra; the filmmaker saw it; invited him to interviewBBC News (Breakfast News) picked it upDrug ScienceKeith Abraham, CEO of Heroic Hearts UKPutting pressure on gov’t to make changesWhat else?
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