<p>Jeff talks to Elisa Gabbert about her new book <a href="http://www.blackocean.org/catalog1/the-word-pretty">The Word Pretty</a>, cancel culture, karaoke, growing up in Texas and nostalgia-as-musical-memory, among other topics.</p>

Elisa Gabbert--Playlist

Hosted by Joshua James Amberson, Karleigh Frisbie Brogan, and Jeff Alessandrelli in Portland, Oregon, The Steer features leading musicians talking about their favorite writers and books and leading writers talking about their favorite musicians and albums. Conversations often go elsewhere and following each talk is a playlist of songs or sounds discussed during the interview. New episodes drop every two weeks.