While the nation reflects on President Barack Obama's impact during his last days in office, we can't forget FLOTUS Michelle Obama. MTV Founders editor Julie Zeilinger speaks with WNYC Editor of Special Projects and LA Times critic-at-large Rebecca Carroll about her essay about Michelle Obama's impact on her as well as the position of First Lady  — as well as her refusal to conform to gendered and racialized stereotypes, her unique feminist identity, and what her future may hold.