The Spy Who Raised Me Podcast Podcast

The Spy Who Raised Me Podcast

Jane Craigie
Conversations between a daughter, Jane Craigie, and her father, Iain Craigie. Iain spent a career in Intelligence from the late 1950s until the early 2000s, living in the UK, Cyprus, India, Turkey, Hong Kong, Saudi Arabia and Labuan. The podcast covers the technology used, the methods of spying, the targets, the relevance of place and time and the historical context. The observations and intrigues of a life in surveillance make compelling listening, as well as what it was like having an adventurous ‘spy’ as a Dad.
Diplomacy, Ukraine and the consequences of Putin
In this episode, Jane Craigie and her Dad, Iain Craigie, look back into Iain's career in intelligence to hear his take on what is happening following the upheaval and displacement caused by Russia's invasion of Ukraine. This was recorded at the height of this summer's UK heatwave before Russia permitted the first shipment of grain from Ukraine. 
Sep 4, 2022
38 min
The early years - the life & natural world of Kingston on Spey
In this episode, Iain Craigie remembers his early life - in the 1940s and ‘50s in a little North Eastern Scottish village,  Kingston-on-Spey. The rich conversation with his daughter, Jane Craigie, covers a young boy’s relationships with nature, the long-lost shopkeepers and the ebb and flow, and immense freedom of living in a coastal village at the end, and immediately after World War II. If you love conversation, our natural environment and Scotland, we hope that you’ll enjoy this episode.
Dec 29, 2021
57 min
Ankara, Turkey - 1989-91
In this episode, Jane asks her Dad, Iain about his time in Ankara working for GCHQ. His post was senior, he was responsible for staff at the British Embassy in Ankara, and also 100 staff at the Black Sea site at Sinop.The posting was at a pivotal time for the Middle East, just ahead of the first Gulf War. Arguably, the start of the current wave of unrest in the region. A key responsibility for Iain was regular liaison with the General of the Turkish Army.There’s a lengthy delay between this and our last podcast... due to technology and the lack of support for Dad to fathom Zoom during the pandemic. But we’re back now...
Jun 8, 2021
1 hr 5 min
Reflections on Hong Kong, China, politics, community and life
A rich conversation between Jane Craigie and her father, Iain Craigie covering Iain’s two postings in Hong Kong in the late 1950s and late 1980s. Not only does the discussion delve into China’s might in our world, it also covers the power of politics, community and health.The podcast is fascinating and also gives inspiration to anyone thinking that old age should diminish a person. Iain proves that it clearly doesn’t.
Oct 25, 2020
52 min
Unlikely connections - the Hindu Kush and Pine Gap
In this episode, Jane Craigie talks to Iain Craigie about the instability of Afghanistan and Pakistan and the coming together of the international intelligence community to create the facility at Pine Gap in Australia to understand and mitigate this threat. The discussion also covers Iain's views on how power might shift towards countries like China as a result of the Covid-19 pandemic. "China is in a very strong position," he said. Iain talks about the value of diplomats and international intelligence community. terrorism, about truly feeling for a country, its land and its people. "Terrorists are looking to bring humanity to  a standstill."
Jul 24, 2020
53 min
Turkey in the 1970s - Istanbul, Gallipoli and the Black Sea coast
This episode capture the conversation between Jane Craigie and her father, Iain Craigie, about three precious years based in Istanbul in the 1970s. Iain’s time was as a more senior intelligence manager with GCHQ, their ‘target’ was Russia. Iain explains the start of using satellites for intelligence gathering - courtesy of the Americans who owned them. Discussions include how the British diplomatic service viewed British intelligence in postings like Turkey where there was so much of interest and at stake. 
Jun 7, 2020
54 min
India 1969-70 And 2020 and Holidaying in Afghanistan
In this episode, father and daughter, Iain and Jane Craigie talk about life in India from 1969-72, holidaying in India’s hill stations, into the Hindu Kush and Afghanistan. Their return to India in February 2020, and why GCHQ had, and still has, an interest in the region. The conversation spans who the intelligence ‘targets’ were - India and Russia - and how the terrain made ‘listening’ extremely challenging. Iain and Jane also talk through the Indian caste system, the religious tensions, which still exist, and how you identify a spy at a cocktail party!NB - addendum - East Pakistan became Bangladesh (not West as Jane said in the podcast). 
May 17, 2020
44 min
Buckie, Bletchley and Cyprus
In this podcast, accompanied by the snoring of Lily, a 16-year-old Jack Russell, Jane explores the early part of her father, Iain’s, life in the tax office in Buckie, in North East Scotland. The conversation charts the start of his career at Bletchley Park, and his first GCHQ posting, as a young married man to Cyprus, with a new baby (Jane). The episode discusses how intelligence officers in the 1960s ‘listened’ to gather information with what is now considered very rudimentary technology. It also explores the geographic location of Cyprus, the Greek/Turkish Cypriot conflict, and what intelligence was gathered from this strategically important Mediterranean island.
Apr 13, 2020
50 min
Iain Craigie’s early life in Morayshire - 1939-1950s
My Dad, Iain Craigie was born in Salisbury, Rhodesia where his father had worked as an engineer. In 1939, aged one, the family moved back to their native Morayshire in north east Scotland. Their first home was a rented one bedroom cottage in Urquhart, near Elgin - by then there were five members of the family, my grandfather, Naylor, and grandmother, Susan (nee Junner). The cottage was on the flight path of German bombers flying back to base from London and Cambridge, so Iain and his brother, Grant and sister, Jean, were evacuated two miles down the road to live with Miss Jackson. She cared for them for three years, times were hard and she was typically versatile, digging up ‘tatties’ from the farmer’s fields and shooting deer to feed herself and the children.During the war Grandad, Naylor, was posted to Palestine, when he returned, he bought a beautiful family home in Kingston on Spey. The house is Morven on Lein Road. In this podcast Dad talks about his memories of early life in Morayshire. His schooling in Garmouth, Fochabers and then Marischal College in Aberdeen. It’s a fascinating insight into early, post-war life in rural Aberdeenshire, Scotland.
Mar 15, 2020
29 min
Saudi Arabia, training Saudi soldiers to set up their own intelligence capability
In this conversation between Jane Craigie and her father, Iain Craigie, the discussion centres on Iain’s posting to Jeddah in Saudi Arabia between 1979 and 1980. Iain was based there as one of five GCHQ operatives. Their role was to train Saudi Arabia’s national guard - mainly Bedouin - on how to set up the country’s own intelligence systems. The posting was challenging, because most of the tutees were near illiterate, and the subject matter was highly technical. The time there was volatile and part of their work was to try and intercept transmissions and movements across the 1,100 mile border with Yemen. This longer episode sets the context of the region back to WWI and Lawrence of Arabia, Kemal Ataturk, Gallipoli and the ANZACs. It also touches on the countries and the origins of the Sunni/Shia divisions, as well as the border areas and power in the Middle East.Iain talks of his time living in the country, the Saudi culture and his adventures into the desert with the immensely kind Bedouin and their families of nomadic camel herders.
Mar 1, 2020
44 min
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