In part 13 of 2968 (you don't need to have heard the others), Briar and Uther discuss 'The Edge of Destruction' (you don't need to have seen it). Written by David Whitaker and directed by Richard Martin, it's the first episode of The Edge of Destruction, the fourth story of the first series of the first iteration of Doctor Who.

Other topics covered: A lot of talk about how it feels to be in lockdown. Briar's chocolate cup cakes and Zoom teaching observations. A sax solo of self-pity from Uther. Proper normal people with proper normal lives. "It is not the marble that is at fault, it is the whole maze," and, a good and charming chunk of Briar picture book talk.

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