In part 11 of 2965 (you don't need to have heard the others), Briar and Uther discuss 'The Ordeal' (you don't need to have seen it). Written by Terry Nation and directed by Richard Martin, it's the sixth episode of The Daleks, the third story of the first series of the first iteration of Doctor Who.

Other topics covered: Wellington airport's runway. How disappointed everyone is in Uther, and, a lot of talk about judgement.

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