In part 8 of 2961 (you don't need to have heard the others), Briar and Uther discuss 'The Escape' (you don't need to have seen it). Written by Terry Nation and directed by Richard Martin, it's the third episode of The Daleks, the third story of the first series of the first iteration of Doctor Who.

Other topics covered: Samuel Beckett and his place in the literary canon. Tony Hancock and a lunch machine. Plips. Plops. Raymond Cusiak. People being mean to Tenet. What a porpoise grave would look like. Spicy things for Bri to look up on her phone. A fancy man saying the word "texture" a lot. Crying over Gundam pilots, and, what will surely be the first of many theories about why the Daleks are scary.

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