Show notes
Su Baen is this week's guest, talking all about why her love of a commercially successful reality TV show is underrated. She also gives us some book recs and shares her favorite moment from "30 Rock." Tune in to hear about her first date with a man who drove a white, windowless van and to hear which awesome, funny women she'd have at her dinner party.
Theme song: "Sleeper Hold," by Saintseneca (@saintseneca)