In this episode, we get a little experimental. I take the show outdoors with my good friend and coworker Tripp White to see how the conversation is stimulated by being out under the sun. In a lovely park up in Ashland's southern hills, we talk about what it's like to nude art model, go back and forth about our various creative projects, and jabber about time management and growth while in college, why we make things, using mushrooms to escape bad mental conditioning, becoming your truer self, and finding work that is relevant to you. It's a pretty all over the place but fun to reflect on kind of episode. Check it out!

Fair warning, there is a little bit of wind right at the start, causing a bit of whooshing. The problem does not persist.