In this episode of "The Scaling Edge," host Michael Brooks and co-host Max talk with entrepreneur JB Benjamin, CEO of three companies. They delve into topics such as entrepreneurship, technology, and privacy, discussing JB's creation of Vox Messenger, a post-quantum encrypted messaging app. They also touch on the challenges of developing for iOS and JB's other ventures in camera synchronization technology and military applications. The conversation shifts to politics and history, with JB criticizing institutional racism in Britain and the potential for citizens to be unjustly deported. The episode concludes with a discussion on the increasing surveillance state in the UK.