**Join the Conversation with Secretary of the Interior Doug Bergham**

In this episode, we're joined by a true American success story, Secretary of the Interior Doug Bergham. From his humble beginnings as a chimney sweep to building a successful software company that was acquired by Microsoft, Doug's journey is a testament to the power of risk-taking and innovation. But that's not all - he's also a seasoned politician, having served as Governor of North Dakota and now leading the National Energy Dominance Council.

In this wide-ranging conversation, Doug shares his insights on everything from the importance of energy independence to the challenges of managing our nation's public lands. He also talks about his experiences as Governor and Secretary of the Interior, including his efforts to revitalize Washington D.C. and improve the reflecting pool on the National Mall. And, of course, we dive into the world of space exploration with a discussion about the historic IPO of SpaceX.

If you're interested in learning more about the intersection of politics, energy, and innovation, you won't want to miss this episode. 

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