What happens when people go to Christian organizations that promise to help them change their sexuality or gender identity? Kristine Stolakis, director of Netflix’s acclaimed documentary Pray Away, and Lynne Gerber, author of Seeking the Straight and Narrow, join us to discuss conversion therapy and ex-LGBTQ ministries. We explore the beliefs these organizations promote about gender and sexuality, why such groups remain prominent today, and how to end conversion therapy for good.