Is the growing spiritual hunger among Gen Z the beginning of another awakening or just a passing moment?

Ralph, John Honold, and Ken Makuakane wrestle with that question in a wide-ranging conversation about discipleship, church planting, and the future of the church. Ralph shares stories of young people seeking God in unexpected ways, while John reflects on what he's seeing through Whiskey and Jesus gatherings. Ken challenges even the language Christians use, arguing that words like revival may no longer communicate what younger generations are actually experiencing.

Together they explore a deeper question: What if the real issue isn't whether God is moving, but whether the church is building communities strong enough to hold what He's doing? If we're going to reach a new generation, we may need more than new methods. We may need a new way of thinking about church itself.