​Welcome Bill Perkins and Landon Tice!00:30​How is Bill handling the extreme weather and power outages in Texas?01:56​Bill made his fortune in the natural gas industry, given that experience, how does he think this scenario could have been prevented?05:39​In Bill & Landon’s upcoming challenge, how did they determine the number of big blinds that Bill would have to be spotted?  And how do they feel about it now?07:21​Ben pokes fun at Landon’s age via an old heads-up challenge story that ended in hilarity.08:47​Bill tells his side of the challenge.  How much he’s going to study, etc.10:06​What’s his team going to be like?  Is he going to hire coaches?  What’s his strategy?12:21​Landon responds with his approach to the challenge.14:04​How has heads-up poker changed for Bill in the age of solvers?16:11​Is poker less enjoyable for him given this change?18:04​Is GTO not as robotic as people think?20:30​What does Bill think of the idea that no matter if he wins or loses this challenge, he will almost certainly come out of it a better player?22:32​Thoughts on variance in heads-up poker, and how much it was a factor in the Doug Polk vs Daniel Negreanu challenge.26:31​Do Bill and Landon think they might have to fake some animosity toward each other to make the challenge more exciting?29:39​Bill wants to crush Landon’s backers more than he wants to crush Landon himself.32:08​Has Landon considered that maybe he dedicates too much of his life to poker?34:15​Based on the philosophy of his book Die With Zero, what does Bill think about Landon’s current dedication to poker at the expense of a social life?36:35​Landon’s thoughts on the same.37:08​Bill insists that the challenge will be exciting to watch.38:03​Have they sorted out details regarding where the challenge will be broadcast, what platform they’ll be using, etc?38:52​Jamie noticed that Landon streams occasionally.  Is that something he intends to pursue seriously, or does he just do it for fun?40:06​Does Landon find it helpful to have to articulate his thought process out loud whilst streaming?41:05​Is there any chance that either of them might stream portions of the challenge on their personal Twitch channels?42:32​Can we expect any good trash talk?42:58​How does Landon manage to stay so level-headed when responding to haters on Twitter?45:16​Bill’s and Ben’s thoughts on the science of trash talk.49:01​Wrapping up.  Big thank you to Bill and Landon for joining us!