The QTS Experience
The QTS Experience
Dave McCall
Episode 224: Dagi Berhane – Building Data Centers Where There’s No Power, Water, or Patience
1 hour 26 minutes Posted Jun 19, 2025 at 2:00 pm.
Introduction to Dagi Berhane
From Ethiopia to engineering: Dagi’s origin story
Evolution of hardware obsession and data center deployments
The Red Fox Data Center story begins
Building modular data centers in the wild
Getting corporate and government buy-in
Lessons in philanthropy and “positive attrition”
What Dagi would do differently next time
The ”Digital Infrastructure Democratization” initiative
Salesforce’s hybrid data strategy & Hyperforce
Planning for uncertainty at scale
The importance of listening and cross-industry dialogue
Practical training and the role of trust
Digital twin technology for real-world training
How Salesforce preserves culture through transparency
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Show notes
What do you get when you mix solar panels, shipping containers, and sheer willpower? A data center in the wild. Dagi Berhane joins me to talk trust, technology, and why availability should come before sustainability. Also, what happens when your cloud has no internet? (Spoiler: Dagi builds one.)
Guest Links
Dagi Berhane’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dagi-berhane/
Salesforce Website: https://www.salesforce.com/
References & Studies Mentioned
Salesforce 1-1-1 Philanthropic Model: https://www.salesforce.com/company/philanthropy/
Red Fox Data Center Initiative: https://redfoxsolutionsgroup.com/
The Innovator’s Dilemma by Clayton Christensen: https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/item.aspx?num=46
Habitat for Humanity: https://www.habitat.org/