In this episode of The PSC in Conversation: The Next 20, Dr Antonio Weiss is joined by Professor Paul Bate, former Chief Executive of the UK Space Agency and a The PSC alumnus, to explore what the space sector can teach us about innovation, leadership and the future of public services.

Reflecting on a career spanning the Prime Minister's Delivery Unit, Number 10, the Care Quality Commission and the UK Space Agency, Paul discusses how reusable launch technology transformed the economics of space, why the UK remains globally competitive, and the opportunities created when world-class research meets practical innovation.

The conversation also looks beyond space. Antonio and Paul explore how technology is reshaping healthcare, education and public services, why personalisation will become increasingly important, and why organisations should start with people and disruptive technologies rather than treating them as enablers of change.