We join the Ex-Permanent Secretary at the Department for Education (DfE) - Jonathan Slater - in this year's first The PSC in Conversation podcast.

Jonathan helped steer The DfE through enormous change both before and during the early phases of the COVID-19 pandemic, overseeing the closing of schools to providing laptops and online materials to support online learning from scratch.

He speaks to Antonio about admiring his parents who were teachers, what a good education looks like and what technology's role could look like in the future of education.

Jonathan has joined The PSC as our latest Senior Advisor to help grow our support for education clients.