For our season finale, we delve into the world of dreams by looking at Ursula K. Le Guin's The Lathe of Heaven and the 1980 PBS movie based on it. What if your dreams could change the world--not in a metaphorical sense, but in a concrete way? What responsibility would you have? In this wide-ranging discussion we talk about Taoism, overpopulation discourse (again!) and the importance of public funding for the arts. Join us for our last trip into the worlds of science fiction (for now)!

Ursula K. Le Guin interview with Bill Moyers

Closing Music: "Get Along Little Doggies" by Harry McClintock