Sara and Jim sit down with Peter Eliasberg of the ACLU. The conversation begins with a discussion about the nefarious conditions within the Los Angeles County jail system. They expose the flaws of running prisons for profits, and explore alleviating some of the burden by diverting detainees with mental illness into community facilities for care. Jim also asks Peter about how the ACLU is helping to reform our broken system, Sara breaks down the differences between ‘prison’ and ‘jail’, and Peter talks about the misconceptions of ‘bail’. As the conversation wraps, Peter talks about how differently things would be run if we could redo the entire American jail system. <br /><br />Art – Simon &amp; Associates <br />Music – Caleb Fletcher

#015 – AG’s Response to Murdaugh Jury Tampering Motion, plus Fentanyl Prosecutions with Dave Aronberg

The Presumption is the official podcast of high-profile criminal defense attorney and media personality Sara Azari and acclaimed criminal trial lawyer Jim Griffin. With over 55 years of aggregate courtroom experience in state and federal courts from coast to coast, Sara and Jim provide listeners and viewers with in-depth analysis of the riveting criminal cases that make headlines and those that should make headlines. The podcast will explore the role and impact of media on the presumption of innocence and the right to a fair trial, as well as the forgotten disease of mental illness and addiction in crime. Episodes will present an important conversation between the hosts and/or in-depth interviews with high profile figures in criminal justice, as well as newsmakers and other influential figures.