Veteran criminal defense attorneys Sara Azari and Jim Griffin chat one-on-one about their background and experience. The hosts highlight how 'the presumption of innocence' has become 'the assumption of guilt' in media and the court of public opinion. Diving into the 'forgotten disease', Sara and Jim also take a close look at addiction and mental illness in mitigation of culpability. They also break down critical moments from the Alex Murdaugh trial, and discuss how the media coverage impacted the verdict.

Art – Simon & Associates Music – Caleb Fletcher