hi :) in this episode, i get to laugh with my good friend barbara while we discuss how pleasure is related to boundaries, safety, vulnerability, embodiment, autonomy, and friendship. her being someone that is defaulted toward pleasure, this conversation felt fun and easy even as we brought up the more challenging aspects of being in a human body. she teaches me so much about being a boundaried individual and i am really excited for this to be my first interview. love you barbara!